[Dragaera] (no spoilers) The 17 [Great Weapons]

[tom sausman]

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>Well, the Orb is *credited* with creation by Zerika I, but she never 
>revealed how she did it. Perhaps he method was to let a Serioli smith 
>create the thing, then wack him over the head with Kieron's greatsword and 
>make off with it?
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          But in Iossla Didn't Aliera knew how she'd did it?

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Jon_Lincicum at stream.com wrote:

>Jose Marquez <jhereg69 at earthlink.net> 
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>>Jon_Lincicum at stream.com wrote:
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>>>Howard Brazee <howard at brazee.net> 
>>>Sent by: dragaera-bounces at dragaera.info
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>>>>On 7:42 AM Gaertk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>     I also believe there are at
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>>>>> least a couple Great Non-Weapons.
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>>>Heh. Referring here to the Orb, perhaps?
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>>The Orb was not created by the Serioli. 
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>Well, the Orb is *credited* with creation by Zerika I, but she never 
>revealed how she did it. Perhaps he method was to let a Serioli smith 
>create the thing, then wack him over the head with Kieron's greatsword and 
>make off with it?
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>>>17 is not only the mystical number of Dragaerans, it's the mystical 
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>>>of the cycle itself, which has (apparently) existed since long before 
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>>>creation of Dragaera (the planet itself). 
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>>>Saying that 17 means nothing to the Serioli, just because they're not 
>>>"Dragaerans" is ludicrous. They're the only true natives on the planet. 
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>>>means, if anything, MORE to them than to any of the "alien invaders" 
>>>(Easterners, Dragaerans, Jenoine, etc) who have arrived over the years.
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>>That could be; the original Dragaeran tribes were 31, and the Easterners 
>>do not seem to have any particular attachment to 17. I imagine that an 
>>Empire built on top of a mystical, catastrophic event as harnessed by a 
>>powerful artifact might take on the characteristics underlying it. 
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>Exactly my thinking. The reason the 31 dwindled to 16, (then increased by 
>1 to 17 when the Jhereg were founded) is due to the influence of the cycle 
>on events. "Destiny" if you will. 
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>>So if 
>>the Empire is built on the Greater Sea of Chaos, which is harnessed by 
>>the Orb, which is a gift from the gods, who have hitched their train, so 
>>to speak, to the Cycle, a speculation based on the common knowledge 
>>among Dragaerans that the physical representation of the Cycle is that 
>>wheel in the Halls of Judgment, which is where the gods hang out, well, 
>>then you end up with a really long run-on sentence. But the main idea is 
>>that all of that would pararectally put the Empiricals in sync with the 
>>Cycle. I wonder when the number 17 really took hold in Dragaeran 
>>society. I bet Sethra knows...
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>I'm beginning to thing what Sethra knows and doesn't know is very 
>different from what Sethra suspects, or doesn't suspect.
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>But she's certainly the only one left around who *might* know. (Unless you 
>count memory-regression, I suppose, which has always seemed a bit iffy to 
>me, since memory can be like a whatchacallit.)
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>Majikjon 
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