[Dragaera] Fwd: Re: [Dzur Spoilers] On a criticized conversation

Mark A. Mandel thnidu at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 14 05:59:18 PDT 2006


Oh, rats. I keep forgetting that the default is to reply only to the
sender.

> --- Davdi Silverrock <davdisil at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 8/13/06, Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Davdi Silverrock wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 8/13/06, Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > > > > The
> > > > > water
> > > > > is
> > > > > wide,
> > > > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > not
> > > > > get
> > > > > o'er.
> > > > > Nor
> > > > > have
> > > > > I
> > > > > wings
> > > > > that
> > > > > will
> > > > > carry
> > > > > me
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think "your friend Kiera" might be a crack.  Possibly this is
> > like
> > > > > my wife saying to me, "Your son just keeps eating and eating",
> but
> > > > > I doubt it.  It's inconsistent with _Orca_ as I understand it.
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean?
> > >
> > > I claim that Cawti and Kiera consider each other friends, based on
> > _O_.
> > 
> > Ah.  I understand your quibble now, but I think your wife's usage
> > points at the emotional context: Cawti is expressing minor irritation
> > at Kiera for her theoretical action, presumably in that if Kiera was
> > the one who told Vlad, then she (Kiera) would have been performing a
> > certain betrayal of information that Cawti would have preferred to be
> > confidential. Indeed, I can see Cawti saying to Vlad "your friend
> > Aliera", if/when she found out that Aliera had been the one to
> > initiate contact with Vlad to help Cawti out with her Jhereg problems.
> > 
> > I think Cawti would still consider Kiera her friend, and Aliera as
> > well of course.
> 
> 
> Does Vlad know that Kiera and Cawti are friends? Or, more cautiously:
> does
> he know of the relationship between them that we see in Orca?
> 
> -- Mark A. Mandel, proprietor, Cracks and Shards
>    http://www.cracksandshards.com
>    a Steven Brust fan website


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