[Dragaera] [Dzur Spoiler][Orca Spoiler] A slip of the tongue...

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"Shawn Burns" <shawnb at stanford.edu> 
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Re: [Dragaera] [Dzur Spoiler][Orca Spoiler] A slip of the tongue...








>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dragaera-bounces at dragaera.info [mailto:dragaera-
>> bounces at dragaera.info] On Behalf Of David Dyer-Bennet
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:46 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Dragaera] [Dzur Spoiler][Orca Spoiler] A slip of the
>> tongue...
>> 
>> On 8/15/06, Howard Brazee <howard at brazee.net> wrote:
>> > Jon_Lincicum at stream.com wrote:
>> >
>> > >/Dzur/ Page 180:
>> > >
>> > >"...which is a problem Dragons tend to have. Strategy only remains
>> > >strategy, apart from tactics, in our heads."
>> > >
>> > >[/cite]
>> > >
>> > >So, why is Kiera the thief including herself when talking about
>> Dragons?
>> > >Isn't Kiera a Jhereg?
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > It's not obvious to me that "our" refers to "Dragons".   Maybe it 
refers
>> > to "us people".
>> 
>> Can't reasonably be so interpreted.  The "Dragons tend to have" in the
>> previous sentence is key.  "Dragons" is the referent of "our".
>> --
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>
>Steve seems to interpret it that way: "That was the universal "our"
>referring to human beings.  "When we consider these catagories of Being, 
we
>place them according to our notions of truth..." "

So, are you saying that Steve is being unreasonable?

Really, this just looks like an inadvertant implication based on sentence 
structures... Which is too bad, since it seems to tell us something rather 
important about Sethra. (That she considers herself a Dragonlord.)

But it also seems clear (Given Steve's comment) that, whatever the grammar 
in question might imply, that this is not the information that he intended 
to convey.

Sigh.

Majikjon