[Dragaera] Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object
Philip Hart
philiph at slac.stanford.edu
Fri Nov 17 13:02:08 PST 2006
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Davdi Silverrock wrote:
> On 11/17/06, Philip Hart wrote:
> >
> >
> > They like his style.
>
> Unlikely. A smartass is really only amusing to those not the target
> of the smartassery.
Vlad can I think turn it on and off as appropriate.
>
> > They don't want the Empire to mess with their people.
>
> Eh, possibly.
Eh, fine then.
JFTR a scenario I envision is: the subundersecretary for scheduling notes
the Iorich request a block of time to try a Duke's murder sub orbis. She
sees that the Duke was a Jhereg so calls up the House rep and says, Do you
guys care about this one? and he replies, Nah, do the usual once-over
easy - in the unlikely event anybody on the council cares we'll sort it
out ourselves if he doesn't trip on his tongue. And thanks for asking,
but don't bother next time - we'll let you know if we ever want a
real trial.
> > T was a pain in the keister.
>
> T was a pain in *Vlad's* keister. As long as T was paying his dues up
> the line, the Organization would have no reason to bother him, or wish
> him any harm. And the investigators certainly have no experience of
> pain from T.
I can think of many ways T could have been seen as difficult despite
earning acceptably. V presumably knew he could get away with his act.
>
> > V would be dead if they cared.
>
> Well, yes, that's what I keep saying.
Guess I missed that. So as it's unlikely anybody cares, it seems
natural that they'd play the trial for laughs and spare the cell.
> >
> > Really, I suspect that Vlad getting rounded up indicates that he was
> > a bit sloppy - probably the Jhereg said, Well, if he can talk his way
> > out fine, he'll have learned his lesson.
>
> I doubt they cared about him either, as long as he kept the cash
> flowing up the line.
I imagine attracting Imperial attention is frowned on.
> > > > And it's not apathy if the matter is trivial.
> > >
> > > But that's practically the definition of apathy - considering
> > > something to be trivial.
> >
> > Not according to my dictionary, which has as first meaning "Lack of
> > interest or concern, especially regarding matters of general
> > importance or appeal"
> >
>
> Hair splitting. If one "lacks interest or concern" about something,
> does it not follow that one considers it to be trivial?
I wrote "if the matter is trivial", which I believe means "is generally
considered to be trivial". Far from hair-splitting, it's the nub of the
argument.
> And is it not the case that murder is usually considered to be a
> "matter of general importance or appeal"?
No.
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