[Dragaera] Off-Topic Discussion: Occupy Wall Street

Mark Landin marklandin at gmail.com
Thu Dec 15 06:05:14 PST 2011


I was with you taking the moral high ground, but then you couldn't
resist imitating the very behavior you criticize.

The Tea Party in the media is the Tea Party that's become the
mouthpiece or political tool of the ultra-right. I don't think it
represents the "real" Tea Party as it's founders intended.

On 12/15/11, DoomMetal Darryl <doommetaldarryl at gmail.com> wrote:
> Matthew said it.
> Andy, your opinion reveals to us that you buy into the content of media
> sources like MSNBC. That you attack the intelligence of tea party members
> is right on cue for how the left operates.
>
> What does the tea party stand for? I don't watch MSNBC, so I wouldn't know
> what skewed information you think is truth.
>
> The United States is 14 TRILLION dollars in debt. With no significant plan
> to reverse course. The tea party was created by people who happened to be
> alarmed by this. If you're not in favor reversing this course, then you are
> in favor of the destruction of the United States, because the course is
> unsustainable. (Check out Greece.)
>
> At least with the tea party, you don't worry about tuberculosis, lice, or
> being in Macy's with your kids when a molotov is tossed in.
>
> Darryl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Matthew <matthew at infodancer.org> wrote:
>
>> On 12/14/2011 05:09 PM, andy wrote:
>> > Eh, legislature has become the biggest arena for regulatory capture.
>> > Business used to focus more on penetrating the commissions and governing
>> > bodies tasked with overseeing their particular bailiwick, and
>> > influencing congress critters was the means to that end.  Now industry
>> > is quite simply going for the jugular, and you have private entities
>> > like Koch industries starting political entities such as the tea party.
>> > I always have been and remain a firm believer in sunshine laws, with
>> > full disclosure in bill creation and campaign financing.  If there was
>> > some bloodless way for the OWS movement to help with that (such as
>> > kicking the moribund journalism in the country square in the jibblies so
>> > they get off their chubby butts), I'd be whole heartedly behind them.
>> > The whole thing just seems incredibly amorphous and goal-less (is that
>> > even a word).  It's the anti tea party. OWS seems to have vast
>> > intelligence and no point, whereas the tea party had zero intelligence
>> > and the great focus of a fat kid on a biscuit.
>>
>> I feel obligated to point out that there are people here who don't agree
>> with your politics, and who are unlikely to be convinced by ad hominem
>> attacks.
>>
>> This list has hosted interesting political discussions in the past, and
>> I certainly tolerate skzb's political leanings with the fond indulgence
>> of minor patron to artist, but your message in particular was written
>> with the kind of oblivious intensity that suggests you assumed everyone
>> in your audience was in full agreement with everything you had to say
>> and would accept your pronouncements in the spirit they were intended,
>> that is, as the rhetorical reverberations of perceived conventional
>> wisdom suitable for a snide cocktail party among friends who have
>> carefully vetted the invitation list to exclude contrary opinions.
>>
>> I write this message with no intent beyond the simple reminder that
>> reality may not conform with your assumptions, and you may wish to bear
>> that in mind in the future.
>>
>> With delicious restraint,
>> A fat kid focused on my biscuit
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