[Dragaera] Need a passage from "Iorich"

Eric Shupps eshupps at binarywave.com
Tue Jan 29 11:03:02 PST 2013


Kindle to the rescue (beginning of Chapter 2):

By "The State" we mean that body that holds the monopoly on the use of violence within a geographic region and has the power and authority to determine how much and in what manner and under what circumstances this monopoly with be delegated, authorized, or commissioned to other bodies or individuals.  This power is expressed and interpreted through the body's various legal systems, coded or uncoded.

By this definition, (cf. Lanya), it is clear that to accept the existence of a Sate is to accept the monopoly on violence, and so too in reverse.  The question, therefore, of the legitimacy of any act of violence by the State, whether deliberate or accidental, must first of all be determined according to:

1. The legitimacy of the State.
2. The legitimacy of the interests of the State in which the violence occurred.
3. The appropriateness of lack thereof of the particular acts of violence in serving those interests.

It is for this reason that, for example, any violence committed by a rebellious vassal is inherently illegitimate; any act of violence by agents of the State that are committed for personal motivations are considered criminal misappropriation of authority; and any act of violence that, in intent, fails to advance the cause of the State is considered negligent.

The committee began its investigation into the events in Tirma on this basis. 


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Subject: [Dragaera] Need a passage from "Iorich"

There's a passage in Iorich where the speaker defines the State as the body that authorizes the use of violence. It's voiced as one of the investigators in the Tirma case. My books are all packed away due to a pending move .. would someone be willing to transcribe that little segment here?
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