[Dragaera] Liberals

[Jerry Friedman via Dragaera]

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> From: Jerry Friedman via Dragaera <dragaera at lists.dragaera.info>
> To: Dragaera List <dragaera at dragaera.info>
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> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dragaera] Liberals
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> 
>>  From: Scott Schult 
>>>  As opposed to the Cycle being a result of the stability?  I suspect 
> they
>> work
>>>  together to some extent, but I like the idea that the stability might 
> have
>>>  come first.
>>> 
>>>  Jerry Friedman
> 
>> When Vlad visits the Halls of Judgement in _Taltos_, he introduces The Cycle
>> (meaning the big stone wheel) by explaining to the reader that it is
>> considered to be *THE* Cycle in every meaningful way. To a Dragaeran,
>> there's no difference between speaking about the physical manifestation 
> of
>> The Cycle in the Halls of Judgement and talking about the socio-economic
>> manifestation of the Cycle in the progression of Houses passing the Orb from
>> one to another. So much so, that there is a belief that if a person had the
>> strength and will  to physically take hold of the stone wheel and move it,
>> that the Empirical Cycle would immediately turn as well.

...

I'll add the quotation from /Taltos/, Ch. 16.

"It is commonly believed that if anyone had the strength to take hold of the
great wheel that is the Cycle and physically move it, the time of the current
House would pass, and the next would arrive.  It is also commonly held that
it would require enough strength to overcome all the weight contained by the
forces of history, tradition, and will that keep the Cycle turning as it
does."

Jerry Friedman