[Dragaera] Dragaera Digest, Vol 115, Issue 7 Sethra

Wed Dec 28 15:00:02 PST 2016

This one perfectly reppresents my understanding too.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 at 11:32, Calisto via Dragaera <
dragaera at lists.dragaera.info> wrote:

> As I understand Sethra predates the Empire and she states at that time
> when there were 17 tribes she was still living.
>
> We do not know when or how she came to possess the great weapon Iceflame
> but we do know she was offered Godhood.  It seems safe to say she was
> offered godhood while in the Halls of Judgement.  If that is true than it
> might also suggest the reason she was offered godhood was because her soul
> had become linked irrevocably to Iceflame and Dzur Mountain.  Dzur Mountain
> being significant because of it’s ability to help defend against the
> Jenoine.
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> Sethra declines becoming a god and thereby retains her mortal form.  Verra
> at one point tells us that being a god is to be fundamentally different
> than a mortal, Verra’s blood is not that of a mortal and it is that
> difference, and probably other factors as well, that allow her (Verra) to
> come and go from the halls of Judgement.  The Lord Morrolan was only able
> to walk out of the Halls of Judgement because of Verra’s interference and
> her using Vlad to cheat the system as it were to infuse Morrolan with a
> small amount of her blood.
>
> This leads me to believe Sethra became undead because she had to in order
> to leave the paths of the dead after deciding not to become a god.
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> This would have been about 250,000 years ago as of the time Pari of
> Roundwood is writing about Adron’s Disaster.  As far as becoming part of
> Dzur Mountain I believe that is just an expedient way to pass the ages
> without going insane with boredom.  Basically go to sleep until Dzur
> Mountain detects a threat by the Jenoine may be eminent, after all 250,000
> years is a long time to spend rearranging the furniture.
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> Just my two cents…
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> >   1. Re: Speculation about Sethra Chapter XCLVIX
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> > From: Scott Schultz via Dragaera <dragaera at lists.dragaera.info>
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> > My understanding of Sethra's history is that she predates the Empire, and
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> > she is probably one of their original experiments. She has mixed ancestry
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> > because there weren't any tribes or Houses around to enforce genetic
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> > conformance.
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> > Her longevity is a personal trait. The only reason she ever died is that
> she
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> > finally got tired of living and chose to die.
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> > Since she was already legendary, and nobody ever returned alive from Dzur
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> > Mountain (or at least so the legends said), few ever visited Dzur
> Mountain
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> > to realize that she was gone.
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> >> From the standpoint of the management of the Empire, she was on a long
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> > sabbatical. It seems unlikely that any ruling Emperor other than an
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> > exceedingly decadent Phoenix would presume to order Sethra to appear at
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> > court and expect her to comply if she chose otherwise. Her absence would
> be
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> > interpreted as rejection of the invitation. Maybe Tuko was even covering
> for
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> > her absence.
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> > Since she DID die, and her soul went to the Paths of the Dead, there was
> no
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> > coming back, not even for Sethra, unless she defied death itself. Someone
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> > convinced her that she did, indeed, need to come back. So she did. That's
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> > Sethra for you. Apparently death wasn't even enough to separate her from
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> > Dzur Mountain and Iceflame, or at least it was not an insurmountable
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> > obstacle to reforming that bond. Presumably that means that she is in
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> > possession of her soul, regardless of her other circumstances.
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> > We don't really have a clue what vampirism means on Dragaera. We've seen
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> > hints of Vlad noting Sethra drinking "something red" that might be wine
> but
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> > might be blood or something else. We've seen jokes between Vlad and
> Loiosh,
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> > but otherwise we really don't have much clue what "undeath" means, other
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> > than it being "sometimes inconvenient".
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> > Since the discovery of her Vampirism was a scandal (as Undead cannot hold
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> > public office), and a relatively recent one in terms of Empire history,
> it
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> > could be presumed that her re-emergence was also relatively recent.
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