[Dragaera] Dragaera Digest, Vol 116, Issue 8

Wed Jan 25 21:14:38 PST 2017

Long live the memory of Terry Pratchett.  

As for my two cents on the subject of plagiarism.  I do not believe you CAN plagiarize a style of writing.  By definition plagiarism is claiming someone else’s work as your own, as far as writing style is concerned there is no way NOT to have what you have read effect what you write.  In my opinion what you write is the product of everything that has made you who you are, what you like, dislike, is cool, is repulsive is all a matter of perspective.  You van say my style isn’t unique that is a far cry from editing the by-line to say my name instead of someone else’s.

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>   1. Re: Authorial Influences (Kris Green via Dragaera)
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:39:40 +0100
> From: Kris Green via Dragaera <dragaera at lists.dragaera.info>
> To: Corey Reid <corey at scratchfactory.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Dragaera] Authorial Influences
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> ?Genre fiction, as Terry Pratchett has pointed out, is a stew. You take
> stuff out of the pot, you put stuff back. The stew bubbles on.?
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> On 15 January 2017 at 17:31, Corey Reid via Dragaera <
> dragaera at lists.dragaera.info> wrote:
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>> Agreed! Stealing someone?s tone is just flattery!
>> 
>> I wrote a DRAGAERA fanfic based on a game that is much more a direct
>> rip-off of Brust than yours:
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>> https://medium.com/@barsoomcore/address-28428bf97a16#.qz5dcawur <
>> https://medium.com/@barsoomcore/address-28428bf97a16#.qz5dcawur>
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>> Now that DOES involve plagiarism since I stole at least two of his lines
>> straight from Vlad books.
>> 
>> core
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>>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Michele Riccio via Dragaera <
>> dragaera at lists.dragaera.info> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Scott - as for your conclusion, I'm not sure all writer's voices aren't
>> a composite of authors they admire blended with the writer's own
>> imagination.
>>> 
>>> Humorous beats especially.
>>> 
>>> We write what we 'know' - ie, we know how others have created stories so
>> we do what they did. We pick up sentence structure like a child picks up an
>> accent. We envision scenarios based on what movies/books we've consumed -
>> but memory is a weird thing and what I garner from a book/author will be
>> different from what stands out for you (mostly) - so the mix remains unique.
>>> 
>>> Did you read "The Sun the Moon and the Stars" by Brust? It's about a
>> bunch of artists and how they create. Also, there is a Hungarian folktale
>> tucked in. Anyway - there is a scene where they discuss another artist's
>> style 'creeping into' their own. You aren't alone in thinking about how
>> one's writing is influenced.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't worry about plagiarism - there was no blatant copying
>> (sounds like an interesting story though)
>>> 
>>> Michele Riccio
>>> 
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>>> On Thu, 1/12/17, Scott Schultz via Dragaera <
>> dragaera at lists.dragaera.info> wrote:
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>>> Subject: [Dragaera] Authorial Influences
>>> To: "'Dragaera List'" <dragaera at dragaera.info>
>>> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 11:36 AM
>>> 
>>> For various reasons, I got inspired
>>> yesterday to write a fanfic around a
>>> game I play a lot. The particular scenario involves a
>>> three-way gang war,
>>> and a confrontation/negotiation between representatives of
>>> two of the
>>> factions.
>>> 
>>> After I finished the first writing spell on it, I read the
>>> last thing I
>>> wrote and then almost laughed out loud.
>>> 
>>> Here's what I wrote:
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> "Now, Drixxie, it would be discourteous to drop in
>>> unannounced and kill your
>>> hosts. We just. disabled them a little."
>>> 
>>> She paused as if thinking for a moment, then shrugged.
>>> 
>>> "Some of them took more 'disabling' than others."
>>> 
>>> Drixx made a mental note to double the current month's
>>> infirmary budget and
>>> to raise the pay of anybody who had managed to rate some
>>> extra "disabling".
>>> ----
>>> 
>>> That last sentence made me laugh on re-reading it because I
>>> realized I was
>>> writing in "Vlad's voice". That was the exactly the kind of
>>> thing Steve
>>> would have written for Vlad. "Sticks is alive? Double his
>>> pay." In fact, I'm
>>> going to bet that he wrote that sort of thing more than once
>>> in the stories
>>> where Vlad is having territorial problems with his
>>> neighbors.
>>> 
>>> It's just a throwaway fanfic so I'm not going to worry about
>>> whether I'm
>>> really "plagiarizing" Steve. I just thought it was
>>> interesting that when you
>>> have a favorite author  whose stories you've read many
>>> times,  that his or
>>> her "voice" can start to flow effortlessly out of your
>>> fingers as easily as
>>> your own.
>>> 
>>> I suppose that professional authors, who are invariably
>>> voracious readers as
>>> well, have to deal daily with the issue of writing in their
>>> own unique
>>> "voice" without it being simply a composite of all of the
>>> "voices" they've
>>> collected from years of being a consumer of fiction.
>>> 
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