[Dragaera] Seventeen Maybe Different Jhegaala Spoilers

Philip Hart philiph at slac.stanford.edu
Mon Jul 14 01:30:37 PDT 2008


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0. Ok, just finished reading _Jhegaala_ (annoying that I can't write _J_).
It's interesting that "gaala" and "reg" are enough to specify the 
particular species.  Imagine "poison metamorph" and "poison lizard"
being enough to specify earth species - does this indicate a paucity
of Dragaeran fauna?  Are there no families, genera, whatevers to 
distinguish?  I called something a blue jay recently and a birder said 
no, we don't have any of those here, that's a Steller's jay.  There's
no such-and-such dzur.  Do we know if this extends to the non-Cycle 
animals?

1. The use of "Dzur" for "dzur" early in the text - was that a typo?
A joke?  The nnumber of missing "the"s in the Text etc. was a bit
disconcerting.  Too bad Davdi didn't get a proofread as offered
after _Dzur_.

2. Ok, dumb question, but how again is it that the Organization finds
out about Vlad?  The locals have no reason to reach out to them, or
I would think ability.  I don't see how the Jhereg could have 
established any surveillance in Fenario at this point.  There's no
way for anyone to know Vlad has a link to Burz.  (Ok, we know Kragar
has done a bit of investigating, and perhaps that data is floating
loose, but that's no better than "Fenario" on his mother's side
at best, and I doubt even that much.)  It's not entirely clear to
me jftr how the Jhereg intend to prove they morgantied Vlad, so
why bother?

3. I'm a bit skeptical that the 200ky empire with clans of obsessive
librarians (redundant?) would lack a paper-making technique that
has been kicking around Fenario for a few hundred years.  The idea
of a factory itself seems more relevant, but ok, the whole general 
topic is hard for me to understand.

4. Someone who has read more than one book on the relevant historical
era might chime in on Coven/Guild/Manor as Church/Guild/Manor in the
Middle Ages or early Industrial Revolution.  Or maybe "Coven" = "Jews"
is a useful comparison.

5. Kind of interesting that Vlad doesn't make any use of his personal
relationship with Verra, or even discuss it.  The Text was written or
whatever three years after the events, so it would be interesting to
check the Timeline and see what his perspective at that time says about
the tone Vlad uses, and his attitude.

6. The concerns of _Teckla_ are very present, and Vlad seems a bit more
sympathetic to the peasantry than I expected, esp. wrt _Athyra_ as I
recall it.  Maybe even class-conscious.

7. Vlad has been horribly tortured twice in the space of a month or two.
Is this some structural parallelism, some Cyclic echo around the Phoenix
part of Vlad's life?

8. I had the sense that the book in some ways is more about the
relationship between Vlad and Loiosh than we've seen elsewhere.
In _Athyra_ and  _Orca_ we see Loiosh growing - perhaps one finds
the impetus here, as Vlad basically spends the entire book
ignoring his advice then refusing to share his thoughts.  Maybe
there's some of the latter in _Dzur_.

9. There's maybe something relevant there for the relationship of the 
Text to the reader, who is nearly dared to be more than a passive 
flunky and as it were act in the text space by keeping up with Vlad's 
deductions. To me it seems a bit of an unfriendly stance by the Text.

10. In fact there's a lot about not telling in the Text - I guess it's
a general theme in the Vladiad, but maybe more here.  Funny sort of
in the context of Vlad being tortured for info he doesn't have.

11. Is there a comment here about recent politics, such as the Maher 
Arar case?  I can't recall any such before.  Arar is especially 
relevant as a dual citizen, maybe even as a software engineeer (iirc 
SKZB worked as a programmer).

12. I don't understand how the text snippets get into the Text if
Vlad is reading into a box.  Do the Six Parts Water bits reflect 
Vlad's memory of relevant moments from the play, hence the reference
to "merchant" at the end?  AFT, maybe this is a hallucinatory link.

13. Still AFT, but doesn't Vlad conclude that the note Noish-pa retains 
is intended as a hidden message for him?  I don't understand how that
could be necessary from her perspective at the time - why if it were
she never left Vlad a full accounting of herself.  Why we don't learn 
more from Noish-pa about her character - I can understand Vlad wanting
privacy, but in the context of the Text it's odd.

14. I don't follow how the black Phoenix stone protects Vlad from the
working of witchcraft directed at his body - I thought it blocked 
communication, not - well, it's hard to even speculate.  I would
think at least Loiosh would be vulnerable.

15. I'm not sure about the locals' reactions to or expectations of
the jhereg - if they are Art-savvy, would they speak of "familiars"
(or is that stricture non-canonical after the Piroiad)?  Would they
not expect Vlad to have unusual information-gathering resources, etc.?
For that matter, why doesn't the Coven confront Vlad directly at all? 
Killing all the Mersses seems a bit extreme as a first step.

16. The Text ends with Vlad reflecting on not having learned something
through impatience.  At the end of the events in Burz or the East has 
he changed, but not learned?



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