[Dragaera] I reviewed Hawk. :-/

Mark Landin via Dragaera dragaera at lists.dragaera.info
Wed Nov 5 14:12:24 PST 2014


Or maybe "hamstring the yendi" is some figure of speech that has cultural
significance, but isn't immediately clear to us non-Dragareans. Maybe read
like "Sethra was supposed to jump the shark, but pulled up at the last
second-deliberately".

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Jon Lincicum via Dragaera <
dragaera at lists.dragaera.info> wrote:

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> From: "Steve Rapaport" <steve.rapaport at gmail.com>
> To: "Jon Lincicum" <lincicum at comcast.net>
> Cc: dragaera at lists.dragaera.info
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:49:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dragaera] I reviewed Hawk. :-/
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> On 4 November 2014 05:21, Jon Lincicum < lincicum at comcast.net > wrote:
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> On 11/3/2014 6:38 PM, Steve Rapaport wrote:
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> On 3 November 2014 22:09, Jon Lincicum via Dragaera <
> dragaera at lists.dragaera.info > wrote:
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> > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:31 AM, Jon Lincicum via Dragaera <
> dragaera at lists.dragaera.info > wrote:
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> > > On 11/1/2014 9:04 PM, Jerry Friedman via Dragaera wrote:
> >>  P
> >>  D
> >>  L
> >>  Ti
> >>  H
> >>  D
> >>  Is
> >>  Ts
> >>  V
> >>  J
> >>  Io
> >>  C
> >>  Y
> >>  O
> >>  Te
> >>  A
> >>  P
> >>
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> >Ya know, I don't agree. I think the context isn't what you remember. Here
> it is, and it's Aliera speaking:
> >
> >"I was there, Vlad, when Kieron was backed into a corner by an ex-Dragon
> >named Dolivar, who had been Kieron's brother before he shamed himself and
> >the whole tribe. Dolivar was tortured and expelled. I share the guilt
> there,
> >too, as does Sethra. Sethra was supposed to hamstring the yendi, but she
> >missed-deliberately. I saw, but I didn't say anything. Perhaps that makes
> me
> >responsible for my brother's death, later. I don't know..."
> >
> >I'm not really sure 'the yendi' even refers to Dolivar, but if it does,
> it's clear that Sethra and Aliera both let him go, and it's not clear that
> anyone wanted >him dead. Tortured and expelled kind of implies "not trying
> to kill someone".
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> Thanks for looking this up. I did mis-remember a bit; however I parse this
> passage differently.
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> "He was tortured and expelled. Sethra was supposed to hamstring the
> yendi..." implying, he was being banished out into the wild where the
> beasts lurked, and Sethra was supposed to disable him so that he would be
> easy prey to the critters; but she didn't. She let him go unharmed and able
> to defend himself. And thus, Dolivar was able to survive the expulsion,
> regroup, and form the Jhereg.
>
> So yeah. Sethra was expected to provide what would amount to the killing
> blow (even if the actual death would due to the local wildlife, thus
> freeing Keiron, Drien, Sethra, et al. from any guilt realted to directly
> murdering a relative).
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> This implication seems pretty clear to me; but hey, I wasn't there.
>
> --Majikjon
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