[Dragaera] So, what did really happen at the end of Chapter 15 of Hawk?

[Andreas Davour]

That was also a good one! Thanks.

/andreas
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"economics is a pseudoscience; the astrology of our time" Kim Stanley Robinson


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On Friday, December 12th, 2025 at 11:04 AM, mtiller at ntlworld.com <mtiller at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Andreas,
> 
> I love your tagline quote:
> 
> "economics is a pseudoscience; the astrology of our time" Kim Stanley Robinson
> 
> My favourite line on that is:
> 
> "Economists have correctly predicted 10 out of the last 3 recessions"
> 
> Mark
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> Subject: Re: [Dragaera] So, what did really happen at the end of Chapter 15 of Hawk?
> 
> Like “the dam burst”.
> So why not use that? Does Dragaera not have any dams because they don’t need them because of magic? No one invented them.
> Still like the idea that someone burst through the door and made sure Vlad didn’t remember…without erasing the actual door bursting.
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 11, 2025 at 11:37:22 AM EST, Andreas Davour via Dragaera dragaera at lists.dragaera.info wrote:
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> 
> Huh. I had not considered it to be a figure of speech, but that makes more sense than the literal interpretation.
> 
> /andreas
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> On Wednesday, December 10th, 2025 at 6:13 PM, Jerry Friedman jerry_friedman at yahoo.com wrote:
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> > Thanks, I hadn't noticed that before. I can't see a literal meaning for it. I think it's a figure of speech from Vlad's world, something like our "All hell broke loose."
> > 
> > Jerry Friedman
> > 
> > On Tuesday, December 9, 2025 at 11:46:41 AM MST, Andreas Davour via Dragaera dragaera at lists.dragaera.info wrote:
> > 
> > As I wanted to read Lyorn in chronological order, I just re-read Hawk. I remember being confused about this the last time I read it as well, but then I quickly became preoccupied by the resolution to the big caper. Now, it stuck with me.
> > 
> > So, Vlad is sitting in that room with the Council members and their sorcerers, and the suddenly the door is burst open.
> > 
> > But, then what happens? Nobody charge in through the door, and instead they cast a sleep spell and put chains on Vlad and so on.
> > 
> > Did I miss something there? What was it that blew open the door?
> > 
> > /andreas
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